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    • ferz
      PAULOJOSE,  i once have read a sci-fi story in which the idea was that we're conditioned by plato & euclid.

      plato 's philosophy = it's known...
      euclidyan geometry vs non-euclidyan ...
      newton clas'is physics vs "new-school" = strings, worm-holes, pozitrons & quarks etc.

      i find it interesting plato was leonardo da vinci is billy meier
      & newton was einstein 
      ...&, by-da-way - e=mc2 is WRONG ; whether so, it would be a continuum dawn-day-light, & not a day-night change... 
      but, it's also interesting that "modern physics" came-up with "light-being-caught-in-gravity=matter" & gravity-vectors=time...

      what was i sayin' ? = oh, yeah... my idea would be this : gatekeepers are "ushers-wannabe-s" & "gates" are fake-doors, like... anybody breaks-through such a "portal" thinks or feels like ... "getting-out", like "the-truth-is-out-there"... in fact, such stades of counsciousnes' being VERY NORMAL, but so-called-every-day-people lost it ... i don' t know how to say it in words, capisci...

    • ferz
      ... like a 2 years kiddo opening the gate & gettin'-out "on-da-streets"...
      = that gate is a ... conditioning-device, not a ... blockage... i don't know ... 
      &, children are more curious than scared - have YOU noticed ?
    • ferz
      "allow children to come to me" - said IS'A / Jesus
    • OskrZS
      One thing is certain.. I hate myself for not being able to do things in the good way... Always have to be scared and moved by fear like a freakin sheep.

      I fear for my family...
    • OskrZS
      How to get back plan a, teacher.

      :'(

      Dont quite understand Dune ending.. The rain is suffering because of truth and gods will?

      I hope no one gets hurt because of my stupidity. How could someone live with that?
    • OskrZS
      Thanks @ferz
    • paulojose
      CB, I know the gate is narrow, now it seems it is also closed!
    • paulojose
      ferz, also aparently there are no impossibilities, some will escape, us? Not likely, but as far as we keep searching we will, perhaps, find the small opening in the gate.
    • ferz
      edited March 2019
      i don't know ... "the-gate" is like somewhere in the change-it-self...
      = i mean, i keep on remembering some moments in my life when i ... for example, i' ve been looking for umbrella-man of jfk, found all the pics .. but, i still needed to ... identify it - i don't know...
      &, then a good she-friend of mine asked a lady who used pendulum to compare with

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      & i've been told "yeah, umbrella-man&saint-germain are the same person"
      = this was a moment i 'vw been : "this is it!" = bang!
      ... later-on, i 've been told it's the same with nyarlat , aka da trickster aka lucypher...
      = 2nd "bang!".
      ... i mean, the moment when YOU can say :"evrika!" , like arhimede when he found the soap under the water in the bathtub...
      ...when YOU can say :"it's like this only & none-otherways!"

      in kosmykal, or counsciousnes' proportyons, might be like ... the moment Buddha REALISED that mahaparinirvana is NOT THE ULTIMATE TRUTH ... i don't know...

      then-again, this mandela effect made me change all perspectyve over it... 
      ... i mean, pyramids changed their place, Earth changed place in the galaxy, heart changed its place in the human body...

      = it's THE-CHANGE-ITSELF ... re-modeling ... like, everything-within-human-being, YOU know ?
      - when the new-vision brought by such change is TRUE, it's evolution... when it ain't, it's ... illusion ?

      &, a TRUTHseeker is always ... challenged to DISCOVER whether any new info is valide or not, i don't know...
    • Brian
      When memory and intelligence is impaired there can be no valid starting point for the truth seeker to start from. Theosophy is based upon projecting anything we wish upon unknown or shadowy figures. One very unhelpful technique is stare at yourself in the mirror and watch your face morph into a variety of different people.Fluoride minds are the devil's workshop.
    • Brian
      The key to knowing is unknowing, first - i.e. deprogramming..

      Perhaps, a lost art? Certainly a Herculean task, it seems.

      One must assume that all information in books and on the net is invalid and the product of weak and misguided minds.
    • Brian
      Is the world as it appears to be, or is there some further reality beyond appearance? Plato's allegory of the cave, from The Republic, is one of the most famous and beautiful expositions of the difference between appearance and reality. Using Socrates as his mouthpiece, Plato argues that empirical knowledge amounts to no more than knowledge of appearances. In fact, he claims, our perceptual knowledge is at least thrice removed: it is merely knowledge of the shadows of illusions of reality.
    • Brian
      Democracy is mob rule. The creation of tipping points using mind control.




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    • Brian
      https://monarchprogramming.wordpress.com/category/alters-and-triggers/
    • Leftius
      edited November 2016
      "One must assume that all information in books and on the net is invalid and the product of weak and misguided minds."

      What do you mean? Science is right and history is right. We learn a lot from books. We must trust researchers. They give us information which we must understand and, of course, we must think critically.
      Only dummies don't read books. 
    • ferz
      "The key to knowing is unknowing, first - i.e. deprogramming.."
      = exactly - let' s supose somebody has cumulated a lot of infos & is about to ... "conceive" a system through which might considere to comprehend "the whole" = at this point, a tiny lilttle info which might appear outta-nowhere, or even a tiny details always ignored "comes-into-the-light" & turns everything upside-down or blowas-away "the conseptual system"... = it's time to start all-over again 
      ... "unknowing" = it happened to me, & keeps on happenning...

      but, what is better ? = to keep-on-searching, or to
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    • paulojose
      There isn´t democracy anywhere. Democracy would be ruling by the people, where did that happen? Nowhere! Power is exercized by politicians, they have put themselves between the people and the exercise of power so people don´t have power. We live in a dictatorship of parties, elections are a shamm, a farse, to put periodicaly a piece of paper in a box is not democracy is just a way to give legitimacy to those who opress us. Politicians are controlled directly and indirectly by the elite, the herd receives orders from the politicians and from the elite wich ends up being the same thing. The propaganda around us is simply overwhelming, we can´t even hear ourselves think anymore, we are surrounded. The level of lies that we swalow everyday is astounding, some truth comes to the surface but it is very little. I suspect that we have to reject completely this world if we are suposed to make any progress in the life we have now.
    • LunaWHDavies7
      @Leftius
      You're right. A fact is a fact is a fact.
      Pathetically enough, though, for instance, textbooks can manipulated. My mother recalls that what she learned about Atahualpa and the Spanish takeover of parts of South America doesn't match what's on the internet or what actual history textbooks say (she was given one textbook and one only and made to
      memorize as a child).

      As for scientific fact, I have no clue how anyone can distort that.
    • LunaWHDavies7
      It's very difficult to distort facts nowadays, though.
    • Brian
      What do you mean? Science is right and history is right. We learn a lot from books. We must trust researchers. They give us information which we must understand and, of course, we must think critically.
      Only dummies don't read books. 

      Why is deprogramming SO difficult? It's possible to connect to the ONE ultimate source in order to leave all this darkness behind. 

    • Brian
      The statement "Jupiter is the largest planet in the solar system" is about the fact Jupiter is the largest planet in the solar system. But is it? Based upon the limitations of observation and consensus may not be enough.




    • Brian
      Is the world as it appears to be, or is there some further reality beyond appearance? Plato's allegory of the cave, from The Republic, is one of the most famous and beautiful expositions of the difference between appearance and reality. Using Socrates as his mouthpiece, Plato argues that empirical knowledge amounts to no more than knowledge of appearances. In fact, he claims, our perceptual knowledge is at least thrice removed: it is merely knowledge of the shadows of illusions of reality.
    • Brian
      Black and white SITH consciousness is ultimately self-defeating.

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    • paulojose
      A scientific fact?! What the hell is that? How do we know that something is a fact, just because we were told so a thousand times? What people believed a hundred years ago was basically false, more so two hundred years ago, much more so three hundred years ago and so forth. Therefore what we believe today is mostly false too... We have the inherent arrogance to think that now we have the real facts, that we are on the right track, that the ancestors were wrong but not us.We are fed a daily diet of lies, we don´t know the truth, we are not allowed to, it´s simple.
    • Leftius
      It seems like I have a mindset that doesn't differ from many people. I'm just trying to use common sense. Brian, you are a mystic, but you were once like us. What was the first step for you?
    • paulojose
      Brian, to receive the truth from the source, great! How do I do that?

    • Brian
      You first need to expand your consciousness.

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