Ahrinziman

edited August 2017 in General
The Strange Story of Ahrinziman by Anita Silvani (1908) has been a subject of discussion around this circle before.

However, upon reading it, I keep on getting stuck on how this book was written. It seems to be affiliated with Spiritist circles; why is this? There seems to be nothing on the internet concerning how the author wrote this book or how she came about the tale of Sogdianus of Persia and converted it to such a detailed tale thay covers biographical data no one would know?
There seems to be no information concerning the auther herself.

Assuming the entirety of the tale is transferred perfectly from the records?
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  • the book is pdf in "google.books.ro"
    - type anita silvani
    in google
    & search...
  • The stories told by the followers of Allan Kardec are quite elaborate and full of details.No way they can be based on some old scroll or legend or something of the sort. They are very detailed and complete, like if a horde of reporters was there and gathered, filmed and recorded all the data that there was to be recorded. The writer must have been there or saw the whole story. That is if the tale is true of course. 
    The main action of the followers of Allan Kardec is to channel spirits. They say they channel higher ones and reject the others so the information they receive and propagate is correct, so they say.
  • Theories of confabulation range in emphasis. Some theories propose that confabulations represent a way for memory-disabled people to maintain their self-identity.
  • "i feel like... i wanna slap 'em - "wake up"... it's the only part i saw... GOD's will, maybe...
  • @paulojose
    But it isn't. The information they propagate is NOT correct, obviously, and there seem to be very odd things at work there. Odd, not wholly factual, and perhaps sinister.
    You could say there's a bit of truth in everything, but that's what a master deceiver might say.

    I don't know from whence this book emerged other than from the hand of Anita Silvani. Was she a Spiritist? I have no clue! Why does this book show up with connotations of it being popular with odd mystical movements?

    At first glance, it's just a fantastical, poorly-written tale. Why its affiliation with the spiritual and mystical?

    That's why I'm asking if anyone here (clears throat, looks around, looks directly at the person who brought the book up passive-aggressively, looks away casually), might be able to divulge a bit of information concerning the book's origins or why it's popular in these very odd circles.

    Was it simply "inspired" by the Biblical tale of Esther? There's affiliations to the Wandering Jew suggested in the book.

    The human brain can concoct all kinds of fantastical tales with enough suggestion and believe them to be true. Just saying that Spiritism and most movements affiliated to anything remotely New Age.
  • i found that ↑ by typing
    ahrinziman
    in google... &, searching/scratching...
    - 1st of all, ahrinziman is ahriman in which nzi was inserted...
    ...maybe nzi - from nzil-bhu = the maker of moon...which perverted the xi'an (spirit of china)
  • ahrinziman ahriman
    in google
  • it finished me, i'm exhausted... sorry...
    gotta relax & try to sleep, going to work tomorrow...
  • Once the magi were associated with magic in Greek imagination, Zoroaster was bound to metamorphose into a magician too. The 1st-century Pliny the Elder names Zoroaster as the inventor of magic.
  • BRIAN - are YOU kidding me?= what greeks, what zoroastrians? → they are all dead!...
  • Ahrinziman makes it cleat that Zoroaster was his precursor.
  • For a week I continued my daily visits, and then was sent for once more in a hurry because the Prince of Persia had been again seized with one of these strange and (to those around him) unaccountable fits of convulsions, although on this occasion the seizure was much less violent. 

    As before, I found the cause to be the near approach of the black spirit, who although the influence of my strong will interposed a barrier between him and the Prince that prevented him from again touching him, was yet able to draw near enough to exert a considerable influence over him. 

    Since my first encounter with this dark being I had studied one of Jelal-ud-din's valuable manuscripts, and was therefore better able to deal with the obsessing spirit, whom I quickly banished in a very summary fashion, without throwing the patient into a state of unconsciousness. 
  • ok, mahjong or ches'?
    - edgar cayce pretended he's been yoult, zoroaster's father & master...
    ... i'll check tha jelal-ud-din cv...
  • 1) zoroaster ahrinziman
    in google
    2) "halevy's wandering jew" topic in this forum, page 3, "argumentum ad hominem" BRIAN's reply.
  • Faith & philosophy of zoroastrianism
    meena iyer
    - i got it in "books.google.ro" by typing
    zoroastrism mithraism
    in google
  • nzi - i meant dzil nbu, aka yue-laou...
  • @Brian
    Yes, I know not everyone here has read the book and so it makes sense to mention it.
    Ahrinziman mentions astral projection, seeing all kinds of beings around us, etc.
    Personally seen a few entities myself as a child but... is it helpful to be able to detect these entities? I imagine so.

    The problem comes to mental disorders and being potentially institutionalized if you tell the wrong person about these things, hehehe. Hehe.
    Is being able to see these entities just a product of the opening of the "third eye" (or having a good chakra system that's well cared for in general?).

    The whole third eye opening thing is kind of a sham, yada yada.
  • Is Ahrinziman's tale supposed to be a cautionary tale against ambition??

    The problem isn't ambition. He certainly didn't seek these things out of ambition alone because ambition can have many forms.

    A person may be quite ambitious when it comes to learning a new language and their ambition simply becomes drive that allows them to learn, say Tagalog, quite well and in a shorter period of time because of the dedication, work and concentration they put in. Along with discipline.
    Discipline takes grit and ambition: the same ambition and grit that turned Ahrinziman from a random, orphaned little boy who grew up in the Caucasus mountains to a master sorcerer and later king is the same ambition that later turned that soul into someone who meditated their way into elightenment. I think.

    It's grit. Not everyone has that. It's a distinct psychological trend, so koodos to Ahrinziman and his current incarnation.

    But ambition isn't the problem here. It runs deeper than that.
  • Ambition can have many forms.
    It's what you desire that's the problem.

    And then again, defining what you desire with complete discernment is yet another problem.

    I can think I know what I want. But do I, really? I may want a life of restraint and discipline juxtaposed with a risqué career. Living in a tiny home with hardly enough room to sleep and eating and owning the bare minimum a person needs. While
    helping others. And having no friends or family.

    But is that what I REALLY want? Is it? WHY do I want these things?

    People lie to themselves all the time.
  • edited August 2017
    1) jalal ud din, if it's rumi - the founder of mawlaw'iyya/mevlevi order, died in december 1273 → therefore, ahrinziman studyin' his "valuable manuscripts" happened sometimes durin' the 13th century...
    2) as an "astral realm traveler", whether he existed, could be ahrinziman a previous re-inc' of... yram?
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