Guru Worship

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A pivotal point in spiritual development is the ability to see THROUGH the guru.

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OskrZS

Zen Proverb: "To follow the path, look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master."

What master?, self?, such is not a master... right?

Brian

What is of importance is the fact that you obey and allow your judgement to be perverted by authority. Your judgement, your mind, your affection, your life are being perverted by things which have no value, and herein lies sorrow.

Very few sons can even transcend their fathers.

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They tend to fall a long way short, even becoming their antithesis?

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For now we see through a glass, darkly ...

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OskrZS

What do you mean with see through the guru, teacher?.

OskrZS

http://seeingthroughtheguru.com/clues-teacher-false-guru/

Brian

All human beings are fallible. Even an excellent teacher is useless to us, if we fail to fully comprehend what his REAL teachings are.

Brian

If we cannot separate any man from his myth, then History remains a fairy story, truth a stranger and the Akashic Records an impenetrable mystery.

LunaWHDavies7

Oskr, take Brian for instance. He is absolutely a fallible human being, he obviously makes mistakes. He's just some British man living in Thailand who has, to some extent, transceded the illusion we all live in. And he happens to be am excellent teacher who teaches you and I, as well as a number of other people. Some of who we know, others who we don't.
For instance, he's overly blunt, crude and not very sociable. That's some of his faults. On the other hand, he is very kind, empathetic and highly intelligent. A little cynical, but that's more of a positive trait than a negative one. Cynical people question things. Maudlin, sweet people don't.

LunaWHDavies7

And your faults, Oskr. You're too much in the antipode of cynical. You're a bright man, I think, you were a musician afte all. And you meditate quite a bit. But you don't question things often, perhaps it's part of the Latin American education system. I was in it until I was six, and, believe me, I was never taught to question anything, only obey. Their goal was to completely obliterate my personality, which is by nature a very strong and stubborn. They say obedience is a virtue. Is it?

LunaWHDavies7

The point is that you can't think Brian never makes mistakes. Of course he does, like you and me! Moreover, he's lived longer than you and I have, at least in this life, so he's probably made MANY more mistakes than you and I have. Nothing special about our teacher, brilliant, but just a person. Like any other.

OskrZS

As brian teaches, the thought could be considered in differents interpretations, contemplate the universe of a thought is a tough thread. 

am not attacking  him.

I didnt do that, i was obviously refering to take SELF as a teacher, who at the end is a fake one.

BS has become my only contact to what i think is thruth, maybe i have failed to get close to it.

Brian

The guru we choose for ourselves is often a mirror of the false self. A clue to who we THINK we are.

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If we are shallow, we are guided by appearances.

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Or by signs and wonders.

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Or royalty.

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Even paranoia?

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Mediocrity in the age of mass production suggests Communism?

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This has happened because of TV.

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I think we are in rats' alley Where the dead men lost their bones.

LunaWHDavies7

Are you saying we all choose a guru at some point, even subconsciously?

For instance, as a musician, I may have chosen Wolfgang Mozart, the alien from the planet Jupiter as my guru. Whether or not I see him as anything more than a musician.
When does admiration cross the line?